The Artist Proof Giger Alien (CBD Special from August 2011)

Discussion in 'The Panopticon' started by Lars, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. Lars Keymaster Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Messages:
    7,220
    Likes Received:
    15
    SolidLiquidFox wrote 34 minutes earlier »
    There is a certain degree of variation on the T-800 lean pose. I can see why some feel the way they do on that one as some are more upright that others.


    People say that about the T-800? Really? I never knew that there was a lean issue with this one. :O
    The only thing I can remember is the different gun arm posing on some pieces and that some found it to look too feminine despite it featuring like that in the Winston Effect.
     
    #261
  2. SolidLiquidFox Verbal Diarrhoea

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    The lean/half-turn/gun incline is all bundled into one big gripe it seems.
    Some people go for the 1:2 for a standing still pose because they feel the CM T-800 looks akward. However, much like CM Jack Sparrow, the T-800 varies depending on what collection you are looking at. Even the shine/weathering seems different.
     
    #262
  3. Lars Keymaster Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Messages:
    7,220
    Likes Received:
    15
    SolidLiquidFox wrote 3 minutes earlier  » 
    Even the shine/weathering seems different.


    Yeah that is all over the place.
    My only gripe with this piece was that I had a lazy eye effect when lit (when looking straight at the piece, you would see one eye brightly lit while the other was dimmed due to a wrong installation angle).
    I wouldn't say it was an easy fix for me but it worked.
     
    #263
  4. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    phil the sixth wrote 23 hours earlier »
    I'm talking of flaws in the casts( Predator & Alien & TX & T-800) Lars besides the obvious issues that could have been damaged by third parties.

    Casting issues?
    phil the sixth wrote 23 hours earlier »
    I apologise if I sound bitter but my perception is a direct result of my unfortunate experiences with cinemaquettes.As you know,I started as a huge cinemaquette fan but the feeling of having truly something special faded away with every new receivement

    But Phil let's be fair, you change your collection around frequently. With that in mind, I question whether said pieces survive in your collection long enough to be appreciated for what they are, or whether they're constantly competing for your interest/money alongside other things.
     
    #264
  5. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    11,037
    Likes Received:
    0
    Steve,I know it's hard for you to hear but it just didn't worked out for me and I gave it a long shot.Accept it,this is my truth.I really don't know why I would justify myself or my collecting habits to someone who doesn't have the grander picture to begin with.Stop judging me based on what you think you know.And above all,stop questioning my fairness.This is not something what friends do to each other...
     
    #265
  6. Enzucho Opionated

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2009
    Messages:
    8,721
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Orlando Florida
    Great news here slf. Cm is just a class act when it comes to customer service. George takes very good care of his customers.. Cannot wait to see pics my friend!
     
    #266
  7. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    phil the sixth wrote 1 hour earlier  » 
    I really don't know why I would justify myself or my collecting habits to someone who doesn't have the grander picture to begin with.

    Phil, I'm merely pointing out that I find your observations about Cinemaquettes difficult to swallow given the churn in your collection generally. When I witness vague laments about "casting issues" I have to wonder whether I'm reading sentiments that are meaningful, or just contrived justification for the convenience of a series of sales.
     
    #267
  8. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    11,037
    Likes Received:
    0
    Steve,I have always been truthful in my statements.I'm still shocked somehow you would question my honesty after all these years.
    My specimen came in with indeed casting issues.Probably caused by bubbles in the casting process I don't know but there were several flaws in the Predator's armor on both specimen,one of the manidbles had the top of the tooth missing.
    Some parts on the Alien's bodies were missing the uneven surface "lining";the fine details on the end of two tubes were also poorly casted(missing those smaller lines).
    TX was missing one of two symmetric projections in the mouth area and had an ugly dent in the chest area(but was correctly chromed) .
     
    #268
  9. SolidLiquidFox Verbal Diarrhoea

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Enzucho wrote 2 hours earlier »
    Great news here slf. Cm is just a class act when it comes to customer service. George takes very good care of his customers.. Cannot wait to see pics my friend!

    You got it.
    Speaking of variations with pieces, what does everyone make of the Alien tail. Mine almost touches his right hand thumb. I see Raf's is similar too. Do you guys have a preference on which looks better or more fierce?
     
    #269
  10. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    But with respect Phil the pieces to which you refer were purchased brand new. As Otto's experience confirms, it was within your power to return them for a refund or request a replacement. Therefore I hardly think it's fair to bemoan poor casts when a piece without such issues could have been had relatively easily.
    I'm not questioning your honesty, just observing that there's a certain whimsical streak to your collection, with the latest and greatest purchased in one breath, only to be jetisoned in the next. This includes Cinemaquettes, of which I can recall several occasions when you were enamoured, leaving your latest assessment of the line jarring to say the least.
     
    #270
  11. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    SolidLiquidFox wrote 6 minutes earlier »
    Speaking of variations with pieces, what does everyone make of the Alien tail. Mine almost touches his right hand thumb.

    Need to look at mine.
    I did notice that the AP tail had some movement in the socket when fitted to the regular but fit snugly when fitted to the AP.
     
    #271
  12. Lars Keymaster Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Messages:
    7,220
    Likes Received:
    15
    SolidLiquidFox wrote 11 minutes earlier »
    Speaking of variations with pieces, what does everyone make of the Alien tail. Mine almost touches his right hand thumb. I see Raf's is similar too. Do you guys have a preference on which looks better or more fierce?

    I'm displaying sans tail so can't comment... :lash:
    [​IMG]
     
    #272
  13. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    Lars wrote 1 hour earlier »
    I'm displaying sans tail so can't comment... :lash:
    [​IMG]

    Improves the lean I'd say. :ironyfinger:
    With tail.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #273
  14. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    11,037
    Likes Received:
    0
    Stephen wrote 1 hour earlier  » 
    But with respect Phil the pieces to which you refer were purchased brand new. As Otto's experience confirms, it was within your power to return them for a refund or request a replacement. Therefore I hardly think it's fair to bemoan poor casts when a piece without such issues could have been had relatively easily.
    I'm not questioning your honesty, just observing that there's a certain whimsical streak to your collection, with the latest and greatest purchased in one breath, only to be jetisoned in the next. This includes Cinemaquettes, of which I can recall several occasions when you were enamoured, leaving your latest assessment of the line jarring to say the least.

    Steve,I really do hope I'm not bemoaning,it was certainly never my intention.I just wanted to share my experience and motivate my decision why I sold my cinemaquettes,that's all.And as you know it is not only about the casting errors.
    I need to say I'm still enamoured about certain aspects of cinemaquettes(like the exquisite clothing f.e.,use of silicone & real hair) but I no longer regard these as the ultimate museum collectibles.Too many issues surrounding each and every release.You know people change,my sentiments towards the brand has changed and please,it is not the end of the world you know.What can I say?If something not's working anymore I sell it.At least I gave it a try.Must I remind you I had the cinemaquettes for several years,some of these since the beginning of the brand.
    For your interest I still have a lot of pieces(LOTR Weta pieces) from the beginning of my collecting days 10 years ago which will never leave my collection.And indeed pieces you aren't even aware of.(no,you didnt see my complete collection when you were here) Other top pieces(some LOTR PF's,Dracula bust,Indy TOD & Mola PF's,MR one ring,etc,etc and recently those amazing MR SW vehicles like the AT-AT) also remain in my collection.And yes,it's true,if something better comes along I replace it.
    Oh dear,why do I have to explain myself?What do you want from me? :shrug:
     
    #274
  15. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    phil the sixth wrote 3 minutes earlier  » 
    Oh dear,why do I have to explain myself?


    Because posts like this:
    phil the sixth wrote 1 day earlier  » 
    ... my perception is a direct result of my unfortunate experiences with cinemaquettes. As you know,I started as a huge cinemaquette fan but the feeling of having truly something special faded away with every new receivement.


    convey little substance when read by themselves. I was scratching my head when I read your posts Phil, and genuinely thought I'd missed something.
    Anyway, thanks for the extra detail. :flowerpower:
     
    #275
  16. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    11,037
    Likes Received:
    0
    You have a point Steve.
    :>
     
    #276
  17. Lars Keymaster Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Messages:
    7,220
    Likes Received:
    15
    Stephen wrote 2 hours earlier »
    Improves the lean I'd say. :ironyfinger:
    With tail.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Woooooowwww! :laola:
     
    #277
  18. phil the sixth Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    11,037
    Likes Received:
    0
    The darker "coating" of the dome came out fantastic.
    Much more interesting to look at and it adds that extra touch of mystery (and accuracy) to the creature we all remember from the movie.Very nice.
     
    #278
  19. SolidLiquidFox Verbal Diarrhoea

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Mine looks very similar to yours Steve. The darker coat does add an extra creepiness and it takes away the feel of plastic that you get on a transparent dome. Mine had a yellowing effect that gave the plastic away as being plastic. Now it feels more organic if that makes sense. The shine in the front sells the effect too.
     
    #279
  20. Stephen Charter Lounger

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    16,906
    Likes Received:
    4
    SolidLiquidFox wrote 19 minutes earlier »
    Mine looks very similar to yours Steve. The darker coat does add an extra creepiness and it takes away the feel of plastic that you get on a transparent dome.

    It also makes it closer to the Giger approved prototype, and the version Lars saw in the Giger museum.
     
    #280

Share This Page