Other Toynami family brands (CMP, Chronicle etc.)

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  1. Mirak Verbal Diarrhoea

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    This is a surprise !!!! :shock:
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    Thanks for posting these Karim. I guess CM are squeezing some extra drops out of the DC License they obviously aquired.
    Creates some hope for a Ledger Joker wouldn't you say? :naughty:
     
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  3. Mirak Verbal Diarrhoea

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    It seems that this is the batwing from '89
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    it looks nice but I will pass on this one.
     
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  4. Mirak Verbal Diarrhoea

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    Well this seems to be a Toynami batwing '89 ( I changed the title of the topic)
     
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    That is really cool, I wonder the scale of it?
     
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    that batwing looks awsome and it does seem to be the keaton one
     
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    jet_force_juno wrote 4 hours earlier »
    Creates some hope for a Ledger Joker wouldn't you say? :naughty:

    I fully expect a Nicholson Joker now with their latest releases in mind.
     
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    Lars wrote 2 hours earlier »
    I fully expect a Nicholson Joker now with their latest releases in mind.

    Now you come to mention it, doesn't that just make perfect sense?
    Given the choice, I'd prefer Nicholson per se in my collection over Ledger any day.
     
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    i will have to agree, jack as the joker in cm AWSOME
     
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    rrjrstatueman wrote 3 minutes earlier »
    i will have to agree, jack as the joker in cm AWSOME

    Seems like a question for George... which Joker might we expect one day?
    Raf, I updated your questions thread to reflect this.
     
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    hell yeah i will ask away :top:
     
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    So is this the only thing from Batman Toynami are putting out or is there more? The Batwing seems a strange one ot begin with.
     
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    jet_force_juno wrote 4 hours earlier »
    Given the choice, I'd prefer Nicholson per se in my collection over Ledger any day.

    Without a doubt.
     
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  14. Enzucho Opionated

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    i dont know, I enjoyed Jack as the Joker dont get me wrong, and it is more iconic no doubt, but there is something menacing and undenieable about ledger portrayal, when I see him playing the joker on the screen I just cant take my eyes off him,,, Besides I think the make up and costuming would be better on ledger, but only my opinion... but I would def be in for a jack joker as well, but I think we would see a keaton batman or a batman in general before we saw or if we ever see a joker....
     
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    I think right now Heath Ledger's Joker is the favourite because it is new, and fresh in everyone's minds. It was also an incredibly dark character in a film which has left an indelible impression on many who weren't even old enough to appreciate the '89 version. It's the Joker for a whole new generation.
    My take on Ledger's Joker was that it was good, mesmerising for sure, but ultimately I found it quite hollow. Mainly he was just a stooge and set-up for the bigger story going on around him. A way for Rachel to die, Harvey to become Two-Face, and Batman to become the Dark Knight.
    OK so that's an over simplification, but still, the Joker doesn't really do that much, and is quite hampered for me by the lack of any background of character development.
    Jack Nicholson's Joker on the other hand did have some background and character development. But sadly suffered somewhat from being in a film that was nowehere near as grand in scope as TDK. Time Burton's version was really good, but was never as great as the sum of its parts.
    People do say that the Ledger version is more violent and menacing, but I think this has a lot to do with the overall dark, sombre brooding moodiness of the film. Nicholson's Joker was also quite the evil bastard in Burton's vision since he killed Bruce's parents, shoots Boss Grissom in cold blood, and executes Antoine with a rather nasty handshake...
    As for the costume, I am not sure. I am undecided, because there are elements of both that I like. Certainly the Ledger version is more modern and probably more threatening because of the scars. But then Nicholson's version was really quite menacing because of that damned grin he sported all the time. I also liked the hats he wore, as well as the garish clash of orange and purples.
    Ultimately, I think this is one of those cases which harks back to the debate we had about a month ago about characters versus actors.I would love a Jack Nicholson piece. And to be honest I think the Joker would be the obvious choice.
    I noticed earlier that Toynami are also producing the '89 Batmobile and a belt and cowl, so this gives me a major hint that George has some love for this film.
    Maybe it won't be Vader next... maybe it's going to be a Jack Nicholson Joker?
     
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    that would be kick ass, but it also goes back to the other debate we had months ago about Iconic characters, actors and franchises. If they do in fact stick with the one actor method or one character per franchise, I would have to say nicholson would not be portrayed as the joker, but as the he was in the shinning (more iconic for jack). if they did anything from the batman franchise it will most probably be keaton. I just dont see Cm doing Joker over batman if they only had one character to chose from batman, although some movies definately deserve companion pieces, maybe thats a though of georges, who knows, he just could be messing with our heads :headbash: ....
     
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    I agree with you Enz.I have a feeling CM will go for the '89 Batman maquette.I don't think they will go for other characters,how great their performances may be.
     
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  18. Stephen Charter Lounger

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    Enzucho wrote 9 hours earlier »
    that would be kick ass, but it also goes back to the other debate we had months ago about Iconic characters, actors and franchises. If they do in fact stick with the one actor method or one character per franchise, I would have to say nicholson would not be portrayed as the joker, but as the he was in the shinning (more iconic for jack). if they did anything from the batman franchise it will most probably be keaton. I just dont see Cm doing Joker over batman if they only had one character to chose from batman, although some movies definately deserve companion pieces, maybe thats a though of georges, who knows, he just could be messing with our heads :headbash: ....

    phil the sixth wrote 2 hours earlier »
    I agree with you Enz.I have a feeling CM will go for the '89 Batman maquette.I don't think they will go for other characters,how great their performances may be.

    :hmm:
    This is where the one character per franchise gets pretty restrictive for CM.
    As much as I like Batman (we're talking the '89 Keaton version here not Bale's much weaker interpretation), I would prefer the Joker from that film.
    To me, Nicholson was that film. It was pretty much built around him (probably one of the reasons the film was ultimately not as good as it should have been had more focus been given over to Batman). I think the costuming, face paint, potential poses, and actor choice lends itself suggest an end product that could be a fabulous maquette.
    The Shining? Yeah, I guess so. But personally I'd say the Joker is more logical, and would potentially be of interest to a wider range of people.
    The reason I nominated the Joker was chiefly because we are due a villain next, CM have the DC license, and they are already releasing Batman '89 related stuff. That's not to say we wouldn't get a Keaton Batman as well. Although I'd be happy with just the Joker, this is one occasion were CM simply must release both pieces, as one is at least as iconic as the other. Batman is pretty much a cash cow, why wouldn't you milk it for all you can?
     
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    Well I just read the news about Vader in the Supes thread, so I guess that blows my idea about the Joker out of the water.
    :flipper:
     
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    jet_force_juno wrote 4 hours earlier »
    To me, Nicholson was that film.


    So true!
    The chance that you can have a reinvented Joker for every new audience generation is a stroke of genius about this character. But I agree with Steve that while Ledger gave us a fantastic performance, he never had the directors freedom to command the film the way Nicholson did.
    Thank goodness that the new villain CM is most likely Vader, a Nicholson Joker would have raped me financially now that I'm set to get Superman, too. :)
     
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